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Irina Bernebring Journiette I agree. A next step in the debate is of course the increased "Big Brother" society. We today live in a world where almost all of our activity is monitored and recorded. People tend to say that monitoring is supposed to be for "our own" saftey and that "you don't need to worry if you're not a criminal." But who decides what is criminal or not? And of course the ultimate questions: who monitor those who monitor?
Irina Bernebring Journiette @Emory. You raise important questions. Especially about the boundaries of private and public in private versus public space. I especially found the notion of using a personal phone in class interesting.
Irina Bernebring Journiette When reading the comments I agree. A non-American education in which all schools are public made me oblivious to this point.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Thank you. I agree. What if schools suddenly would start expelling people for what they said in the own homes?
Irina Bernebring Journiette I appreciate that you point out that this case, like many others, will never be black and white. In the relation to the racial slur that you mention I would argue that it's somewhat different in the sense that it puts ideas in conflict. That of freedom of expression and that of forbidding hate speech. The constant tugging between the two can for example be seen in the case of the Swedish pastor Åke Green. He was under Swedish law found guilty for hate speech. It was concluded that the constitutional freedom of expression and religion did not protect him. However, the ruling was up-heaved after the realization that the idea of free expression is stated by ECHR and hence is superior to Swedish law. An case that still stirs debate in Sweden.
Irina Bernebring Journiette My understanding is after reading that it was in fact a computer for personal use. However, following hyperlinks is of course always the right thing to do. My intent is in no way to mislead readers.
Irina Bernebring Journiette I am somewhat confused in regards to your initial argument. Perhaps I read it wrong, but I interpret what you are saying that free speech should be limited to those who have the ability to influence people. If free speech only it so be given to those with power, the importance of the grass-root, bottom up approach for social change is made impossible. I'm also somewhat confused in regards to your expression about progressive discipline, this is what I read about progressive discipline "process of progressive discipline is not intended as a punishment for an employee, but to assist the employee to overcome performance problems and satisfy job expectations," certainly then not in line with expelling a student.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Interesting addition. However, what I wonder is, somewhat in lieu with Kathleen, which ability youngsters have to refuse to sign the "contract/code of conduct."
Irina Bernebring Journiette So then the school can arbitrarily decide what is right and what is wrong? And who's allowed to sat what and when? To me that sounds like an extreme limitation of personal rights.
Irina Bernebring Journiette I think the image that you use to illustrate your point send mixed signals. The women in the picture are not only wearing the traditional hijab but also the more unconventional niqab. The distinction between the two is extremely important, both in relation to the discussion about banning religious symbols (and the reason for doing so) and in relation to what the Islamic veil symbolizes.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Thank for the interesting piece. As a swede (and a woman) reading about the subject matter I'm appalled by some of the facts that you present. I'm very interested to see where this discussion will end up and when women will be seen as individual subjects with the right to choose in issues regarding their body and not objects that needs politicians to choose for them.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Interesting article but I fail to see why you associate new media with all that is evil within journalism, such as bias. I would argue that new media instead is a great supplement to traditional reporting. Through new channels we as journalist have access to a whole range of sources that we would not have had access to ten or even five years ago. Today I can reach young men standing in Tahrir square screaming for freedom and balance their accounts with what's being said on the agenda setting floor in the house of parliament. New media has changed the way we reach our subject and how our readers access the information we provide not the ethics that we are supposed to follow as journalist. We still report the truth factually and without bias.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Let's also not forget the importance the Peace Price have in actually raising awareness about a cause otherwise easily forgotten. I heard a speech by Geir Lundestad the other day and would like to emphasize what he mentioned, that raising awareness about issues that tend to be overlooked is one of the prices most important functions. Imagine what the media coverage of the event brings to the table for laureates such as Tawakkol Karman or Shirin Ebadi and their causes.
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Irina Bernebring Journiette I agree. A next step in the debate is of course the increased "Big Brother" society. We today live in a world where almost all of our activity is monitored and recorded. People tend to say that monitoring is supposed to be for "our own" saftey and that "you don't need to worry if you're not a criminal." But who decides what is criminal or not? And of course the ultimate questions: who monitor those who monitor?
Irina Bernebring Journiette @Emory. You raise important questions. Especially about the boundaries of private and public in private versus public space. I especially found the notion of using a personal phone in class interesting.
Irina Bernebring Journiette When reading the comments I agree. A non-American education in which all schools are public made me oblivious to this point.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Thank you. I agree. What if schools suddenly would start expelling people for what they said in the own homes?
Irina Bernebring Journiette I appreciate that you point out that this case, like many others, will never be black and white. In the relation to the racial slur that you mention I would argue that it's somewhat different in the sense that it puts ideas in conflict. That of freedom of expression and that of forbidding hate speech. The constant tugging between the two can for example be seen in the case of the Swedish pastor Åke Green. He was under Swedish law found guilty for hate speech. It was concluded that the constitutional freedom of expression and religion did not protect him. However, the ruling was up-heaved after the realization that the idea of free expression is stated by ECHR and hence is superior to Swedish law. An case that still stirs debate in Sweden.
Irina Bernebring Journiette My understanding is after reading that it was in fact a computer for personal use. However, following hyperlinks is of course always the right thing to do. My intent is in no way to mislead readers.
Irina Bernebring Journiette I am somewhat confused in regards to your initial argument. Perhaps I read it wrong, but I interpret what you are saying that free speech should be limited to those who have the ability to influence people. If free speech only it so be given to those with power, the importance of the grass-root, bottom up approach for social change is made impossible. I'm also somewhat confused in regards to your expression about progressive discipline, this is what I read about progressive discipline "process of progressive discipline is not intended as a punishment for an employee, but to assist the employee to overcome performance problems and satisfy job expectations," certainly then not in line with expelling a student.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Interesting addition. However, what I wonder is, somewhat in lieu with Kathleen, which ability youngsters have to refuse to sign the "contract/code of conduct."
Irina Bernebring Journiette So then the school can arbitrarily decide what is right and what is wrong? And who's allowed to sat what and when? To me that sounds like an extreme limitation of personal rights.
Irina Bernebring Journiette I think the image that you use to illustrate your point send mixed signals. The women in the picture are not only wearing the traditional hijab but also the more unconventional niqab. The distinction between the two is extremely important, both in relation to the discussion about banning religious symbols (and the reason for doing so) and in relation to what the Islamic veil symbolizes.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Thank for the interesting piece. As a swede (and a woman) reading about the subject matter I'm appalled by some of the facts that you present. I'm very interested to see where this discussion will end up and when women will be seen as individual subjects with the right to choose in issues regarding their body and not objects that needs politicians to choose for them.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Interesting article but I fail to see why you associate new media with all that is evil within journalism, such as bias. I would argue that new media instead is a great supplement to traditional reporting. Through new channels we as journalist have access to a whole range of sources that we would not have had access to ten or even five years ago. Today I can reach young men standing in Tahrir square screaming for freedom and balance their accounts with what's being said on the agenda setting floor in the house of parliament. New media has changed the way we reach our subject and how our readers access the information we provide not the ethics that we are supposed to follow as journalist. We still report the truth factually and without bias.
Irina Bernebring Journiette Let's also not forget the importance the Peace Price have in actually raising awareness about a cause otherwise easily forgotten. I heard a speech by Geir Lundestad the other day and would like to emphasize what he mentioned, that raising awareness about issues that tend to be overlooked is one of the prices most important functions. Imagine what the media coverage of the event brings to the table for laureates such as Tawakkol Karman or Shirin Ebadi and their causes.