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Manar Hines LOL no apology needed, Roger. My name is in fact Manar. I'm not trying to hide my identity (I already told Jackie that i'd be changing my name). I'm doing a little experiment (that I can't discuss until after May 27th). After that I'll be back to myself, Manar! But by all means, continue the conversation with Jackie. I already apologized to her from making her so angry, it wasn't my intention and told her that I wouldn't be responding to her anymore.
Manar Hines Hey Anthony, Thanks for the questions. Notice you prefaced your questions with "Come with me to Saudi Arabia" and my statements don't reference a country instead the religion. I've written another article in which I state that I think SA is a backward country that makes Islam look bad. So while you are correct about persecution of non-Muslims in so-called "Islamic" countries, they do not represent Islam and actually engage in violations of Islamic law. Be careful in mixing up religion with cultural practice (ie circumcisions,which also happen in non-Islamic communities). Committing suicide is again Islam. You can not end your life because Islam provides that God decides that. Thanks for reading!
Manar Hines I'm not sure what has been said to make you so angry Jackie, as you feel the need to misquote the Quran without providing context. But I think the best thing is to stop talking to you because I'm afraid your irrational anger will lead you to cause harm against individuals who identify with the Islamic faith. It wasn't my intention to make you angry, and if I did I apologize. Have a good life and God bless. Btw, you should try breathing exercises (they worked for my neighbor when he had anger management issues). Oh, this is Manar (in case you didn't know). I'm running an experiment until the end of this month...Hence the name change.
Manar Hines (even though it probably isn't until 6 or 7). So if she accepted Islam at 4 years old, and then you account that she didn't move into the prophets home until after makkan period which lasted 13 years..that makes her 19 at the age of marriage (and that is if we consider a 4 year old to have understood Islam). But this discussion is pointless as it's clear that no matter what I say, or evidence I provide you will continue with your hateful rant.
Manar Hines I'll repeat what I said previously: If you have done any research, or read a book, you would find prominent scholars who disprove your statement about Aisha being 9. Even professors that taught at universities in the West (like Badawi) discuss this. The time between marriage contract and Aisha moving in with the Prophet was 3 years. She moved in with the prophet at first year of migration from Makka to Madina. The makkan period lasted over 13 years and since Aisah'sname is listed as one of the first to accept islam during that time she couldn't have been younger than 18 or 19 when she was married. Do the math. She was old enough to understand and accept Islam. When do kids start comprehending things? Lets just say 4 years old
Manar Hines ***discussion sorry about the typo
Manar Hines name is listed as one of the first to accept islam during that time she couldn't have been younger than 18 or 19 when she was married. Do the math. She was old enough to understand and accept Islam. When do kids start comprehending things? Lets just say 4 years old (even though it probably isn't until 6 or 7). So if she accepted Islam at 4 years old, and then you account that she didn't move into the prophets home until after makkan period which lasted 13 years..that makes her 19 at the age of marriage (and that is if we consider a 4 year old to have understood Islam). But this disucssion is pointless as it's clear that no matter what I say, or evidence I provide you will continue with your hateful rant.
Manar Hines First, don't call me "dear" I'm definitely NOT your dear. Secondly, you stated "country" the significance of the direction is to the object itself (kaba) and not the country it is in. If you have done any research, or read a book, you would find prominent scholars who disprove your statement about Aisha being 9. Even professors that taught at universities in the West (like Badawi) discuss this. The time between marriage contract and Aisha moving in with the Prophet was 3 years. She moved in with the prophet at first year of migration from Makka to Madina. The makkan period lasted over 13 years and since Aisah's
Manar Hines Yup. That is what I'm saying. Child marriage (a long with a lot of other horrible things) occur in various communities but have nothing to do with Islamic teachings. People can twist and turn any statement for their own disgusting interest. Doesn't make it true or accurate.
Manar Hines I am an advocate of meeting all types of people (Muslims included). However, I don't believe your statements...hence the sarcasm when I said that you know all Muslims.
Manar Hines No matter what you say, Jackie, I will continue to respect the Bible and all Christians as well as non-Christians. And despite your attacks on my religion I respect you and your right to be an atheist...my religion requires me to.
Manar Hines We don't face the country we face the Kaba..get it straight. Don't play dumb. Every Islamic scholar has expressed the treatment of women in Saudi is NOT representative of Islam...hence the overuse of the example.
Manar Hines The hadeeth you mention hasn't been authenticated. Again, nice try.
Manar Hines Repeating your statements multiple times doesn't make them true..just makes you sad. But nice try!
Manar Hines Oh, because you know every single convert in this world.
Manar Hines I'm not whining about the Bible I'm merely stating that I don't misquote it because I dont understand it's historic perspective. I respect every religious text even if I don't believe in it. Well, considering your previous comments are much more hateful, I'll take the comparison to a 4 year old as a compliment.
Manar Hines Well, my friends saw me cry after the bombings occurred so they knew I was grieving too.
Manar Hines But this "billion statement" invalidates your accusation. So nope, I wont stop.
Manar Hines Your comments do not suggest that you "respect their right to believe." You should be entitled to live your life as an atheist. Islam states that there is no compulsion in religion. So as a Muslim I'm required to respect you no matter what you believe.
Manar Hines Jackie, you say that you know what I'm going to say next..and I can say the exact same about you. Several Islamic historians have expressed differences in "aging'" references of the past and today. So she wasn't a 6 year old.
Manar Hines Oops, sorry Roger. Type I meant "isn't" not 'is"
Manar Hines A mic for creativity...although bringing Saudi Arabia to the argument is a bit overused...try something new.
Manar Hines Again, like I previously stated, if in fact Islam teaches violence the 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world would have destroyed this planet. So clearly, your statements are false. I guess since Muslims all over the world live peacefully with their neighbors they must all be "liars."
Manar Hines Jose, don't worry the mosque I attend does not have a "radical" cleric and considering the FBI's surveillance and use informant in the Muslim community they would be aware of any "radical clerics." Thanks for reading!
Manar Hines Well thank God no one made you the leader of this country...That would be a grim picture. I can care less about being tolerated from you and despite your remarks I will continue to respect you...
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Manar Hines LOL no apology needed, Roger. My name is in fact Manar. I'm not trying to hide my identity (I already told Jackie that i'd be changing my name). I'm doing a little experiment (that I can't discuss until after May 27th). After that I'll be back to myself, Manar! But by all means, continue the conversation with Jackie. I already apologized to her from making her so angry, it wasn't my intention and told her that I wouldn't be responding to her anymore.
Manar Hines Hey Anthony, Thanks for the questions. Notice you prefaced your questions with "Come with me to Saudi Arabia" and my statements don't reference a country instead the religion. I've written another article in which I state that I think SA is a backward country that makes Islam look bad. So while you are correct about persecution of non-Muslims in so-called "Islamic" countries, they do not represent Islam and actually engage in violations of Islamic law. Be careful in mixing up religion with cultural practice (ie circumcisions,which also happen in non-Islamic communities). Committing suicide is again Islam. You can not end your life because Islam provides that God decides that. Thanks for reading!
Manar Hines I'm not sure what has been said to make you so angry Jackie, as you feel the need to misquote the Quran without providing context. But I think the best thing is to stop talking to you because I'm afraid your irrational anger will lead you to cause harm against individuals who identify with the Islamic faith. It wasn't my intention to make you angry, and if I did I apologize. Have a good life and God bless. Btw, you should try breathing exercises (they worked for my neighbor when he had anger management issues). Oh, this is Manar (in case you didn't know). I'm running an experiment until the end of this month...Hence the name change.
Manar Hines (even though it probably isn't until 6 or 7). So if she accepted Islam at 4 years old, and then you account that she didn't move into the prophets home until after makkan period which lasted 13 years..that makes her 19 at the age of marriage (and that is if we consider a 4 year old to have understood Islam). But this discussion is pointless as it's clear that no matter what I say, or evidence I provide you will continue with your hateful rant.
Manar Hines I'll repeat what I said previously: If you have done any research, or read a book, you would find prominent scholars who disprove your statement about Aisha being 9. Even professors that taught at universities in the West (like Badawi) discuss this. The time between marriage contract and Aisha moving in with the Prophet was 3 years. She moved in with the prophet at first year of migration from Makka to Madina. The makkan period lasted over 13 years and since Aisah'sname is listed as one of the first to accept islam during that time she couldn't have been younger than 18 or 19 when she was married. Do the math. She was old enough to understand and accept Islam. When do kids start comprehending things? Lets just say 4 years old
Manar Hines ***discussion sorry about the typo
Manar Hines name is listed as one of the first to accept islam during that time she couldn't have been younger than 18 or 19 when she was married. Do the math. She was old enough to understand and accept Islam. When do kids start comprehending things? Lets just say 4 years old (even though it probably isn't until 6 or 7). So if she accepted Islam at 4 years old, and then you account that she didn't move into the prophets home until after makkan period which lasted 13 years..that makes her 19 at the age of marriage (and that is if we consider a 4 year old to have understood Islam). But this disucssion is pointless as it's clear that no matter what I say, or evidence I provide you will continue with your hateful rant.
Manar Hines First, don't call me "dear" I'm definitely NOT your dear. Secondly, you stated "country" the significance of the direction is to the object itself (kaba) and not the country it is in. If you have done any research, or read a book, you would find prominent scholars who disprove your statement about Aisha being 9. Even professors that taught at universities in the West (like Badawi) discuss this. The time between marriage contract and Aisha moving in with the Prophet was 3 years. She moved in with the prophet at first year of migration from Makka to Madina. The makkan period lasted over 13 years and since Aisah's
Manar Hines Yup. That is what I'm saying. Child marriage (a long with a lot of other horrible things) occur in various communities but have nothing to do with Islamic teachings. People can twist and turn any statement for their own disgusting interest. Doesn't make it true or accurate.
Manar Hines I am an advocate of meeting all types of people (Muslims included). However, I don't believe your statements...hence the sarcasm when I said that you know all Muslims.
Manar Hines No matter what you say, Jackie, I will continue to respect the Bible and all Christians as well as non-Christians. And despite your attacks on my religion I respect you and your right to be an atheist...my religion requires me to.
Manar Hines We don't face the country we face the Kaba..get it straight. Don't play dumb. Every Islamic scholar has expressed the treatment of women in Saudi is NOT representative of Islam...hence the overuse of the example.
Manar Hines The hadeeth you mention hasn't been authenticated. Again, nice try.
Manar Hines Repeating your statements multiple times doesn't make them true..just makes you sad. But nice try!
Manar Hines Oh, because you know every single convert in this world.
Manar Hines I'm not whining about the Bible I'm merely stating that I don't misquote it because I dont understand it's historic perspective. I respect every religious text even if I don't believe in it. Well, considering your previous comments are much more hateful, I'll take the comparison to a 4 year old as a compliment.
Manar Hines Well, my friends saw me cry after the bombings occurred so they knew I was grieving too.
Manar Hines But this "billion statement" invalidates your accusation. So nope, I wont stop.
Manar Hines Your comments do not suggest that you "respect their right to believe." You should be entitled to live your life as an atheist. Islam states that there is no compulsion in religion. So as a Muslim I'm required to respect you no matter what you believe.
Manar Hines Jackie, you say that you know what I'm going to say next..and I can say the exact same about you. Several Islamic historians have expressed differences in "aging'" references of the past and today. So she wasn't a 6 year old.
Manar Hines Oops, sorry Roger. Type I meant "isn't" not 'is"
Manar Hines A mic for creativity...although bringing Saudi Arabia to the argument is a bit overused...try something new.
Manar Hines Again, like I previously stated, if in fact Islam teaches violence the 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world would have destroyed this planet. So clearly, your statements are false. I guess since Muslims all over the world live peacefully with their neighbors they must all be "liars."
Manar Hines Jose, don't worry the mosque I attend does not have a "radical" cleric and considering the FBI's surveillance and use informant in the Muslim community they would be aware of any "radical clerics." Thanks for reading!
Manar Hines Well thank God no one made you the leader of this country...That would be a grim picture. I can care less about being tolerated from you and despite your remarks I will continue to respect you...