Avoid Stimulus And Bring Foreign Money Home

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Unemployment is still near 9%, despite six federal stimulus initiatives since 2008.

Despite repeated federal stimulus initiatives, economic recovery continues to fall far short of the Obama administration’s goals. With unemployment hovering around 9% and stock exchanges plunging wildly, there is good reason to question whether the economy is recovering at all.  For the last three years, Americans have looked to President Obama to fix our economic woes, but despite his administration's efforts, millions of Americans are still struggling to make ends meet.

Rather than promote another deficit-driven federal stimulus, the Obama administration should instead focus on removing obstacles to the private sector.

It is critical for President Obama to resist calls for yet another stimulus. The Bush administration spent $152 billion in February 2008 and $61 billion in September 2008. The Obama administration similarly spent $787 billion in early 2009, $26 billion in August 2010, $30 billion in September 2010, and included stimulus measures in the December 2010 deal to extend the Bush tax cuts. Yet unemployment remains at 9.1%, over 45 million Americans are on food stamps, the federal debt is climbing dangerously high, and the federal government has suffered the first of what could be a series of credit rating downgrades. Obama’s own Council of Economic Advisers admit that the $787 billion stimulus cost $278,000 per job created. Serious problems clearly continue to plague the American economy.

Instead of allocating more money, Obama should pursue a more thoughtful, sustainable approach that will yield benefits now and into the future. Removing federal roadblocks to deficit-free private sector growth is essential in this process.  

At 35%, the U.S. corporate income tax rate stands as the second highest in the developed world, encouraging American businesses to relocate abroad, discouraging foreign investment, and encouraging American companies with an off-shore financial presence to keep their income out of the United States. The New York Times recently noted that “Apple has $12 billion waiting offshore, Google has $17 billion and Microsoft, $29 billion.” Experts estimate that S&P 500 companies were holding $1.3 trillion of capital overseas at the end of 2010 and argue that a corporate income tax decrease could bring as much as $1 trillion of fresh capital back to U.S. shores.  

This “repatriated” money would use existing, efficient market forces to legitimately boost the American economy and create jobs without increasing the federal deficit or debt. A recent CBS News report revealed that Ireland’s 12.5% corporate income tax rate has attracted 600 American companies and 100,000 jobs to Ireland. A more competitive corporate income tax code will help American job seekers by keeping American companies in America, encouraging foreign companies to relocate to the United States, and encouraging American companies to benefit everyone by bringing their money home.

An obvious criticism of lowering the corporate income tax rate is that federal tax revenues will decline. However, the decrease would be largely offset by tax revenue from the billions added to the corporate income tax base, as well as income taxes collected from the newly employed and savings on unemployment benefit spending. Since corporate income tax accounted for only 8.9% of all federal tax receipts in 2010, the impact on federal revenues would be minimal.

With six consecutive stimulus failures within the last few years, it is unreasonable to believe that a seventh attempt will bring the job-heavy recovery that American families need and deserve.  Federal stimuli have left unemployment near 9%, and the American economy has actually lost 1.9 million jobs since Obama’s $787 billion stimulus was passed. It would be injudicious for Obama to add to the dangerously out-of-control federal debt by supporting stimulus measures that have consistently fallen short of their goals.

The natural circulation of money, goods, and services, relying not on federal deficit spending but on personal choices, is more effective than government action at putting people to work in industries that use resources efficiently and raise the standard of living for everyone in our society. Obama needs to stand firm, and take a step toward relying more on market forces by lowering the corporate income tax rate.

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Transnational corporations are more akin to foreign nations than anything else we know. They are certainly nothing like the resident citizens or the local businesses of this country. They exhibit no allegiance to anything but their own private interests, and blindly short-term interests at that. Giving them financial benefits and tax advantages is a form of foreign aid. The cost of that aid needs to be evaluated on a case-by-case, day-by-day basis for its return benefits to the national interest.

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This is a strawman argument, using counterfactual logic - President Obama's stimulus efforts, as has been noted by economist after economist, failed not because they were from the federal government or deficit-driven, but rather because they weren't expansive enough.

The private sector is sitting on record amounts of cash, and instead of hiring or investing, most companies are choosing to purchase other companies, offshore labor for even greater profit, and increase executive/management pay. Lowering their tax rate, which is both low and lowered further through deductions and loopholes, or repatriating foreign profits without a tax is the exact opposite of what must be done in a time where recession borders on depression.

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Allowing corporations to reap more profits, or allowing those corporations to bring in more money into the U.S. doesn't guarantee anything in the jobs market. In the third quarter of 2010, we saw corporations bring in record profits, yet there was little job growth during the period. (http://tinyurl.com/3626sxm Huff Post).

Furthermore, your own NY Times article shows that past repatriations led to 92 percent of the repatriated money to be returned to shareholders. (http://www.nber.org/papers/w15023.pdf).

I encourage everyone to read the NY Times article. Repatriation of funds does virtually nothing for the jobs market.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/business/20tax.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

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I didn't claim that lowering corporate income tax rates would "guarantee" anything. It is a good example of the kind of free market principles we should be returning to in light of 6 failed stimuli since since 2008.

The "past repatriations" you are referring to was a short-term repatriation holiday, which is very different than the permanent revision to the tax code that I am advocating. It's not a fair comparison.

The NY Times article largely missed the point. Why are dividends bad? Whether shareholders spend their dividends, reinvest them, or put it in a bank, the repatriated money will circulate and expand the American economy, promoting market-based private sector business opportunities and job growth without addding to the deficit

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The problem with the past stimulus packages is that they included such large proportions of tax cuts (over a quarter of Obama's 2008 stimulus). While tax cuts may be helpful for an ailing economy, they do not have nearly the same results as government spending on creation of jobs.

Not enough was spent on actual job creation by the government to have the effect that everyone had hoped for. As soon as Obama released his proposal, liberal economists warned of what would happen, and they predicted correctly.

While a permanent revision to tax code has much different long term consequences, short term it would have a similar effect.

Corporations have found out that they can have profits without new hires. More profit does not mean new jobs.

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Conservative and libertarian economists also warned how the stimulus would play out, and they predicted correctly as well.

I agree that tax cuts do not have nearly the same results as government spending on job creation. Clearly we disagree.

Again, corporate dividends are good. They contribute to a general economic expansion which will lead to job growth. That these particular companies might not be the ones doing the hiring is unimportant.

I am sure the government could put everyone to work if they spent enough taxpayer money. Why not offer banks huge subsidies to replace ATMs with people? Why not offer phone companies huge subsidies to replace computers with switchboard operators?

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Corporate dividends are great for our GDP, but that's about it.

While in the past we have seen the general expansion of our economy coincide with the creation of jobs, this time that hasn't been true. Our economy has been growing, yet new jobs have not come.

Now with the economy slowing down to a crawl again, something must be done to keep prevent a second deeper recession.

We have efficient systems in some areas. There is no reason to replace superior technology with humans. When we have robots that build our roads for us, and can lay fiber cables you may have a point.

Private companies can make money as banks or phone companies. Private companies cannot make money working on infrastructure. That's why there is a need for funding

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"The break did provide the Treasury with a quick shot in the arm. When Merck brought its $15.9 billion back, it paid $731 million to the I.R.S. All told, companies brought back $312 billion in 2005 and paid $16 billion in taxes." It seems that the plan favored both the corporations as well as the government. This might be one of the many cases in which capital and government work in their own favor, while real private individuals struggle without being heard.

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Do we somehow disagree about what infrastructure means? Private companies make money on infrastructure projects all the time--in the US, around the world and throughout history.

Jobs have not come because the Obama administration has cultivated an environment in which job creation through private industry cannot flourish. Corporate income taxes are only part of the problem. Obamacare has forced businesses to consider how they are going to pay the $569 billion in new taxes they will have to pay this decade, just because of Obamacare. Of course no one is hiring.

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  • Gary W. Patterson, Jr. 8 months ago Tax cuts are a form of foreign aid...

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Tax cuts are a form of foreign aid? Letting people or companies keep the money they earn isn't a handout. If you're talking about subsidies, that's another story.

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I have never suggested no taxes of any kind. That would be ridiculous. But, you seem to be under the impression that we should be thanking gov't for letting us keep any of our money. By your logic, if the marginal tax rate is 30%, the gov't is giving you a 70% handout. I am sorry, but I see things a little differently.

And I have heard all the talk about the rich not paying any taxes. But the facts just don't bear it out. The top 5% of earners pay 60% of the total income tax revenue, more than they ever have in the past.

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I couldn't agree more. I would also point out that the fed has pumped $2 trillion into the economy through QEI and II. All for what? 9% unemployment and a stagnant growth rate. I know, it all would have been worse. Well yeah. Maybe if we did nothing. But nobody was suggesting we do nothing.

Tax policy is where the real growth can be unlocked. Corp taxes should be reduced to 0! The consumers and employees ultimately pay the tax anyway. As much as libs like to pretend otherwise, corp taxes aren't hurting the CEO's.We would more than make up the revenue in other areas w/ huge growth

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If anyone follows me on this site, they will know that I rarely advocate for lower taxes except for the poor. However, I will say that your article has some very valid points. I do think it is an issue that our rate pushes so many companies to move and hold money overseas at a time when that money could be used to spark growth. I don't think this alone would be the answer though, but should definitely be part of the discussion. Something does need to be done about housing, and our infrastructure does need to be rebuilt as well. To me, the key is finding strategy that minimizes stimulus and incorporates all three components.

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  • Jay Nogami 8 months ago Talking about minimizing stimulus i...

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Talking about minimizing stimulus is all well and good, but eventually our infrastructure has to go through major changes. We're falling behind in the technology sector, and we have aging roads and bridges throughout the U.S. Private companies aren't going to step forward and provide funding. These are public goods;there is little reason for the private companies. And most ISP's are sticking to large urban areas for high-speed service, and are fine using our utdated internet infrastructure. These fixes need to be made. Now is the best time simply because our economy is so weak.

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The reason our infrastructure is falling apart is b/c we have so much tied up in our other entitlements that we can't afford anything that isn't absolutely critical. We are drowning in debt, which is only projected to get worse as time goes along.

Also, how do you address my point that these infrastructure repairs/impv'ts aren't anywhere near shovel ready? We have come to learn that there is no such thing. Unfortunately, it was a very costly lesson.

Yrs ago, you could build the Emprire St. Bldg in < 1 yr. We still haven't finished the rebuild of ground zero 10 yrs later!

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Immediate readiness is a problem, but even with turnaround time, showing that the government is directly taking strides to secure our future and help the jobs market will hopefully inspire confidence in Americans.

Jobs cannot be created overnight by anybody. It's an unfortunate reality, but these things take time. Simply because we cannot create jobs tomorrow does not mean that the entire plan should be thrown out.

As far as entitlements, I think most reasonable people agree that there need to be reforms made. This can't be matched by further revenue decreases though. There has to be a compromise where we can both raise taxes and cut spending. That should be a long term goal however, as both of these can shatter our already weak economy.

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While most reasonable people would agree there is a dire need for entitlement reform, it seems one of the two parties would rather use the issue as a campaign club rather than present real ideas to address the problem.

BTW, I don't think anyone is proposing further revenue decreases. We are suggesting simplifying the tax code, lowering rates and getting rid of many loopholes. In the end, most agree these reforms would be revenue neutral at worst, and positive at best. The goal should be 18% of GDP in tax revenue, as we have averaged for the past 50 yrs.

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Everyone who signed the ATR Tax Protection Pledge (Nearly every Republican in Congress) actually promised that there would be no revenue growth at all. Even closing loopholes would have be matched by lower taxes. Their stance is revenue neutral at best, destroy revenue at best.

At the Iowa Republican Debate, all ten candidates said they would not even agree to 10 to one cuts to new revenues. Also, a certain party held the middle class hostage in 2010 when it came to the Bush tax cuts. Everyone knew that allowing the tax cuts to expire for the middle class would be bad, but they seemed to be more focused on opposing literally everything Obama did.

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The pledge actually says nothing about tax revenue growth. What it says is that they won't agree to raise marginal rates and won't agree to get rid of deductions or credits unless there is a co-measurate reduction in rates to offset the deduction. This is exactly what I said above. If we do absolutely nothing, i.e. keep the Bush tax rates, revenue as a % of GDP will return to the historic avg over the past 50 yrs- 18%.

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If getting rid of deductions and credits must be balanced by reductions, and there is no raising marginal tax rates, where else could new revenues come from? If there is elsewhere, I guess I misunderstood.

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Simple. Growth in GDP. If you keep the same tax rates and growth rises so does revenue. As I have suggested elsewhere, if we cut the corp tax to 0, we would probably end up with more tax revenue overall than we have today. The economy would take off. Income tax revenues would rise and there would be fewer people dependent on the government, thus cutting spending as well.

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I agree with the points you made in your essay. Mic to you. I'd like to point out something that few people speak about relating to the present economic crisis. None of the stimuli has been used to effectively help the housing situation. The largest issue that got us into this crisis was the housing bubble. A lot of Americans are struggling to hold on to their home, so is it any wonder that consumer spending is down. If a new stimulus is needed, it should be directed to housing.

Repatriation of offshore corporate funds is a huge potential source of cash. I think the US should threaten to tax these funds if they are not brought back to the US.

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  • Michael De Los Santos 8 months ago Sal, as a housing advocate you know...

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Sal, as a housing advocate you know I agree with you on addressing the housing situation. I would not be in favor of another stimulus unless it somehow can directly impact the housing situation. Our economy will never recover if housing does not recover.

Question, how would the US tax those funds if they are not brought back?

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More agreement. Feels good. The IRS would ask for cash amounts accumulated in foreign subs and tax the total amount if it was not repatriated. The supplemental tax would not be charged if the money is repatriated. But then it's taxed with existing tax laws. At some point, taxes are payable on these funds by these companies. We would just be accelerating it and then, hopefully, the money would be used productively to increase employment.

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Interesting. I did not know they could tax that money like that.

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Chris, you are right on in your assessment. By making the US more business-friendly, consumerism will rise as a result. I can't tell you how many business owners I have spoken to that say their businesses have suffered since Obama has been in office.

A lower corp. tax rate and flatter disparity in the individual tax rate would be a great start.

More stimulous is not the answer, hasn't worked yet.

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The mic is for points a and b. I don't totally agree with point c. The only way a stimulus package should be used would be to boost housing, not save banks. Winding banks down by selling off their good assets (divisions) to other banks is a better solution to me than letting them fail or bailing them out.

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What is your proposal for rescuing housing?

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Honestly Gary, I am not 100% sure what that should be. My current thinking would be to set up a bank to buy(pennies on the dollar) the bad loans off the books of the banks to free them off these bad assets and giving them some capital. Then this bank could work through these loans with modification offers that include things like principal reduction which banks don't want to do. This would increase the number of homes saved and decrease foreclosures. Combine this with some level of investment in affordable rental housing. Currently, banks will not do certain things to modify loans because they are still concerned with the bottom line over saving the housing market. Take this out of their hands.

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I have to disagree. Why should we, the taxpayer, take the burden from banks who made bad decisions? It's a recipe for disaster. We are already on the hook for hundreds of billions thanks to Fannie/Freddie and their lackeys Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.

Don't you think this would encourage the banks to engage in more risky behavior in the future?

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As taxpayer I don't want that burden either. I threw that out as a possible solution. I am not sure what a stimulus to impact housing should look like.

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I'll take the first option. I am never in favor of the gov't becoming a major SH of a private company. It's a very slippery slope.

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