Who Won the Florida NBC GOP Debate? Newt Gingrich First, Ron Paul Second, Mitt Romney Last

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Who Won the Florida NBC GOP Debate? Newt Gingrich First, Ron Paul Second, Mitt Romney Last

Are we watching the meltdown of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney? In Monday night’s NBC News Republican debate in Tampa, Florida, it sure looked that way.

Fending off pointed attacks by fellow GOP candidates Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum while trying himself to deliver sharp rhetoric against his opponents, Romney looked under-matched, flustered, stiff, and at times just babbled his way through questions.

In comparison, Gingrich looked like he still had all the momentum from Saturday’s South Carolina primary win. He calmly answered questions ranging from economics to foreign policy to his own involvement with mortgage house Freddie Mac. Though his policy stances were sometimes suspect or even hypocritical, Gingrich looked the most like the future GOP presidential nominee.

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Marginalized by the Romney-Gingrich battle, Rick Santorum and Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) almost had no impact on the debate. Tonight for the first time showed that moving forward in the GOP primaries, these two candidates will become less and less important.

Perhaps the biggest moments of the debate came when Paul — prodded three times by debate moderator Brian Williams about running as an independent — said he would not go for the presidency on a third party ticket. In polls, Paul lags significantly behind both Gingrich and Romney. A third party run for the libertarian seemed like the most viable option.

The biggest surprise in the debate: Gingrich was not asked about his personal transgressions, specifically about the “open marriage” he asked second wife Marianne Gingrich for. This story had been heavily debated in the news for the last few days, and was sure to be a point that Romney or the socially conservative Santorum would have jumped on.

This issue might be bigger in the coming days, and in the next GOP debate on Thursday.

Just two days after Gingrich threw a stick between the spokes of the Romney presidential machine by winning the South Carolina primary, the candidates again gathered in Tampa, ahead of the January 31 Florida primary. A strong showing in the week leading up to the Florida vote is critical, especially for Romney. After his 12-point South Carolina win, Gingrich has surged ahead in the Florida polls, leading 41% to the former Massachusetts governor's 32%.

Still, Romney does expect to win Florida. Almost 200,000 absentee ballots have already been cast in the state, many of which it is believed favor Romney. Romney is also spending lavishly in the state, including a $2.3 million broadcast buy for ads made this week.

But as Gingrich showed last week when he bested Romney in a South Carolina and again tonight, debate very much matters.

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One point Gingrich hammered Romney on was his tax rate. Gingrich forced Romney to announce that he will release his tax records on Tuesday. Romney said, "I'm proud that I pay a lot of taxes.” Romney has said that he pays a 15% tax rate – a significantly lower rate than the average American. He reaps millions of dollars a year from his former work at Bain Capital, though, maintains a low tax bracket. Gingrich in comparison pays a 31% tax rate.

Romney blasted Gingrich for his work at mortgage giant Freddie Mac, but ignored his own financial links to the organization.

"I don't think we can possibly retake the White House if the person who's leading our party is the person who was working for the chief lobbyist of Freddie Mac. Freddie Mac was paying Speaker Gingrich $1.6 million at the same time Freddie Mac was costing the people of Florida millions upon millions of dollars."

Romney Attacks Gingrich on Freddie Mac

Romney, though, had as much as $500,000 invested in Freddie Mac. All GOP candidates have blamed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for contributing to the housing crisis that helped to drag the nation into the Great Recession. 

Through a barrage of foreign policy questions from NBC’s Williams on topics ranging from Cuba to Iran, all of the candidates but Paul sounded flimsy. Santorum, in answering a question on how he would deal with Iran’s threats in the Strait of Hormuz, was the most hawkish of the candidates, outlining plans to attack Iran immediately. Romney stumbled through a statement about building a stronger Navy (he falsely said America’s Navy was the weakest since 1917).

Paul made clear that he would pursue soft diplomacy with any foreign threats, including Iran.

Highlights on Ron Paul's Foreign Policy

The only point of agreement the candidates had was on economics. Resoundingly, all four men said that they believed in a free market system free of heavy government constraint.

“Markets need to be open for the economy to work,” Romney said. There was little debate on the issue.

Ahead of next week’s Florida primary, Gingrich looks like he is gaining incredible steam. Romney — shell-shocked after it seemed he had all but wrapped up the GOP nomination — looks like he’s out of answers.

And it might be a two-man race soon. In Florida, Rick Santorum is currently polling 11% while Paul is polling a measly 8%. Both men did little to push themselves to the fore tonight.

Monday’s debate turned out to be the slug fest most pundits thought it would be, with Gingrich the last man standing.

Romney Sets the Tone Early – Hitting Back

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RON PAUL 2012 Are my Southern friends that opposed to his foreign policy and the idea of living by the Golden Rule? I'm from Georgia and I just don't get it. Paul is fiscally conservative and stands for liberty and freedom. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262l6tbHSlU

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Keep linking Romney to the establishment. Just ask Republican voters and Independents, WHO they want to pick their candidate? The Establishment or Their own minds. Go Newt!

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I thought Ron Paul won that debate. Did you watch the same debate Chris? Well, anyway, I thought Ron Paul Won. He has my vote after this debate at this point.

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I respectfully disagree Chris. Without the roaring crowd behind him, Gingrich's pompousness fell flat which in turn made his performance sloppy.

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Mr. Miles is incorrect in saying that Ron Paul will become less important as the race moves on. On the contrary, he is single MOST important part of this race!

Because his libertarian views are so contradictory to the neoconservativism which has dominated the Republican Party for so long, Republicans are being forced to look at themselves. They're forced to ask what their priorities are: living up to the rhetoric, or simply voting for the same kind of government they've been complaining about for half a century.

This issue even goes beyond the party. What does America really want? More war and corporate welfare, or peace and liberty? The status quo, or actual change? Failed ideas, or proven principles?

I guess that remains to be seen.

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  • Steven Wittenberg 4 months ago I agree with you that Ron Paul forc...

  • Marsha Jones Henderson 4 months ago Well said, Mr. Light! Ron Paul lead...

  • Marsha Jones Henderson 4 months ago Well said, Mr. Light! Ron Paul lead...

I agree with you that Ron Paul forces Republicans to witness a more reasonable approach to politics, but unfortunately Paul doesn't properly frame his question in the Republican mindset and he fails to connect on their core values. Rather, he explains a course of action, which is stronger than the other candidates' answers, without acknowledging the most critical aspect: why. He needs to explain using values like America is great, stronger, etc.

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Well said, Mr. Light! Ron Paul leads the way on all issues but most important is the fact that he will be the ONLY one that will follow through with what he says. The rest are just trying to get elected WhileRon Paul is trying to save the country from the likes of Romney, Newt and Santorum.

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Well said, Mr. Light! Ron Paul leads the way on all issues but most important is the fact that he will be the ONLY one that will follow through with what he says. The rest are just trying to get elected WhileRon Paul is trying to save the country from the likes of Romney, Newt and Santorum.

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Ron Paul made the most sense in the more important questions of Iran and Cuba. He hit it out of the park and even received applause from anti-Castro Cuban audience, when he said "cold war is over".

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All men agreed on the need for a free market.
But only one man meant it.

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  • Robin Pearce 4 months ago Since the North American Free Trade...

Since the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was signed in 1993, the rise in the U.S. trade deficit with Canada and Mexico through 2002 has caused the displacement of production that supported 879,280 U.S. jobs. Most of those lost jobs were high-wage positions in manufacturing industries.

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RON PAUL 2012

Are my Southern friends that opposed to his foreign policy and the idea of living by the Golden Rule? I'm from Georgia and I just don't get it. Paul is fiscally conservative and stands for liberty and freedom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262l6tbHSlU

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  • Chris Miles 4 months ago I'm from Kentucky and think hi...

  • Robin Pearce 4 months ago One of my dearest friends lived by ...

I'm from Kentucky and think his policies are baseless and shallow.

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  • David Baur 4 months ago Really...like how, so far his are t...

Really...like how, so far his are the only one not baseless and shallow.

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One of my dearest friends lived by the golden rule and had never hurt a fly but that didn't stop her house from being robbed and her death............. Terrorists don't live by the golden rule

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  • Jackson Baer 4 months ago So that means it's okay to kil...

  • Jackson Baer 4 months ago So that means it's okay to kil...

So that means it's okay to kill their innocent women & children. We are called to love with no strings attached. Not love is they love us.

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So that means it's okay to kill their innocent women & children. We are called to love with no strings attached. Not love is they love us.

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  • Robin Pearce 4 months ago That is spoken childishly. Here...

That is spoken childishly. Here's a good example of the Golden Rule not working..... Tibetans are almost extinct because they played by the golden rule.
Obviously the Chinese (no disrespect to those here). couldn't careless about the golden rule. The ME doesn't care about nice either

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"... Rick Santorum and Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) almost had no impact on the debate. Tonight for the first time showed that, moving forward in the GOP primaries, these two candidates will become less and less important. "

Well, one out of two ain't bad.

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  • David Baur 4 months ago LOL...Every Poll shows Ron Paul Won...

LOL...Every Poll shows Ron Paul Won...and by the way, the race is actually only between Ron and Romney, as the others won't be on the ballots in enough states to actually win...the media knows this.

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  • Cameron English 4 months ago You misunderstand, I think. ...

You misunderstand, I think.

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Hmn. Chris, this sounds like a very different debate from the one National Journal described . . .

http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/01/gingrich-lost-his-crowdpleasin.php

Like, maybe they attended a debate in one of our parallel universes? I wonder if that Fringe show is true!

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  • Chris Miles 4 months ago Yeah, they don't know what the...

  • Robin Pearce 4 months ago Well for someone who is supposedly ...

Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about.

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Well for someone who is supposedly popular he hasn't won anything yet .. what does that tell you.......... Obama would eat him alive in the first question.......

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I have to disagree. I think tonight was Romney's night. He came out on the offensive and put Gingrich on the defensive. At this point, expectations for Gingrich in the debates are higher than for Romney. Gingrich's entire surge is based on the idea that he can go mano a mano with Obama. Tonight, he got flustered with a few poorly executed attacks by Romney.

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  • Kyle Haubrich 4 months ago Christopher, I dont think Romney�...

Christopher, I dont think Romney's attacks were poorly executed, I think Romney's attacks did exactly what they were supposed to do...stop newts momentum. Its hard to imagine anyone defending Newt for being a Historian for Feddie Mac. Also, we all know that CONSULTANT in DC = LOBBYIST!!!

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Investing in Freddie is way different than getting paid to lobby for it. Every investor worth their salt was invested in Freddie because of the treatment that it got from the government.

Also, the long pause by Gingrich after he mixed it up with Romney? Yea, Gingrich got worked I thought. Romney has his own problems, sure, fine, whatever, but he followed Gingrich's every word to ground in this debate. At least that's what I saw.

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  • Jordan Wolf 4 months ago O yea, and the knowledge that Gingr...

  • Kyle Haubrich 4 months ago Jordan, I think you got it right on...

  • Robin Pearce 4 months ago True it is different but it's ...

O yea, and the knowledge that Gingrich provided as a "historian?" He was a "historian of washington."

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  • Tom McKay 4 months ago I think it's too early to call...

I think it's too early to call. I didn't see either Romney or Gingrich get out of this without a considerable amount of slime thrown on both. Either way, this level of nasty before the primary is over is unprecedented and is going to destroy the national effort for either candidate.

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Jordan, I think you got it right on. Newt was bloodied tonight and his momentum officially died on stage tonight. Newt wont win florida and the caucuses and primaries after that are Mitt Country...Newt had an AWFUL night.

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True it is different but it's not what is said that counts, it's what the public thinks it hears......... Florida will tell if they heard the difference,

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